MMA on Tap Top 10 - November 20, 2007

What the fuck are you Smoking. Nick Diaz rated after a horrible preformance aganist Mika Aina and a loss against KJ Noons who is not ranked. Where is Cheik Kongo he did beat Mirco Cro Crop who you do have ranked why? Vladimir Matyushenko is an odd choice, who has he beaten that is more credible than Thiago Silva (Tomasz Drwal, James Irvin, Houston Alexander who beat Keith Jardine) and why is Ricardo Arona ranked when he hasen’t fought in such a long time?

I’m just saying you lost a lot of crediblity when you rank fighter’s based on past preformance’s and not what have you done latley. I guess you think Fedor Emelianko is having a challenge against Hong Man Choi who’s biggest K1- kickboxing victory is aganist Gary Goodridge. please tell me why your ranking’s are so weird?

Thank you for your attempt, and your time.

Also another thing why did Jake Shield’s move up when he fought Mike Pyle? is Mike Pyle a better aponent than Mirco Cro Crop. I guess Alexander Emelianko did beat Dan Bobish right. So your argument is correct I guess. LOL

I do like your featherweight ranking’s thought except For Hatsu Hioki did he not lose his last fight? o well can’t be right on all the time. Aswell where is Yushin Okami to your list just curious why he did not make it? thanks bye.

We’ve had Diaz ranked ever since his performance against Gomi so him being on our list of top 10 lightweights is nothing new. We currently have Kongo ranked right behind Aleksander Emelianenko in the 11th spot so he barely misses the cut.

Matyushenko has beaten Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, Pedro Rizzo, and Yuki Kondo for starters. Silva hasn’t beaten a fighter that’s been even close to being ranked as a top 10 light heavyweight. Alexander was probably the closest and this past weekend showed why he didn’t deserve to be ranked high anyway.

Arona fought in April, it hasn’t been that long.

If you can’t use past performances in ranking fighters then how are you supposed to do it? If we just went by a fighter’s last 3 or 4 fights then Fedor wouldn’t even be ranked.

You are entitled to your opinion if you believe that our rankings are “weird”. However I tend to think that the majority of people that follow this site would say that they are at least somewhat accurate for the most part.

Shields moved up because he fought a pretty credible opponent in Mike Pyle and dispatched him pretty easily. Sanchez has lost his last two fights so it was pretty easy for us to move Shields ahead of him.

I’m not sure what you mean but Hioki has lost his last two fights. He lost split decisions to both     Antonio Carvalho and Jong Man Kim in consecutive Shooto events.

Okami didn’t make the cut because other than MacDonald and Swick, he hasn’t defeated any other top middleweights recently. He garnered a win over Anderson Silva last year but that was by disqualification. Silva was dominating Okami until he kicked Okami while he was down.

Silva was on the ground when he kicked up and nailed okami in the face and he couldnt see that okamis knees were downed

So what you are saying is that you rate fighter’s more on what they ranked in the past than what you have done lately. right?

Sad that sound’s more like a historian than anything. It’s just my thought though.

Shields moved up because he fought a pretty credible opponent in Mike Pyle and dispatched him pretty easily. Sanchez has lost his last two fights so it was pretty easy for us to move Shields ahead of him.

Shields did beat Mike Pyle. But Diego Sanchez did beat Karo Parisyan, Nick Diaz, Joe Riggs, Kenny Florian and John Alessio.  So how can you rate Jake Shields ahead of Diego Sanchez if Diego won all those fights aganist top competition?

You did that for Vladimir Matyushenko so why not Diego Sanchez? just curious.

Diego Sanchez did lose to Josh Koscheck and Jon Fitch. I will give you that but that is not to shabby considering they were top 10 ala Nick Diaz to KJ Noons

But Mike Pyle lost to Matt Horwich and Rory Markham. How is he considerd top competition considering he has beaten Shonie Carter and Aaron Weatherspoon I guess? He is a good fighter but top Competition please explain?

Just a couple of question’s, and sorry about the weird coment. I meant funny or something like that so my bad.

What the hell is up with those lightweight rankings?? Sakurai #1?  You have got to be kidding me.  He WILL be moving up to welterweight soon enough because there is no way he will make 155 and not to mention he hasn’t fought at lightweight since Feb. against Danzig who isn’t nearly the caliber of a Top 10 fighter.  Plus you have Sherk AND Penn behind Gomi. Sherk IS the lightweight champ if you haven’t noticed.  And I assume you’re just being nice to Diaz by giving him the #9 spot?  2 absolutely disgusting performances in a row should not have someone, who only has a total of 3 fights at lightweight, in the top 10.

Andrej - No, we use a combination of what has happened in the past and what has happened recently.  My example was trying to point out that if you don’t use what happened in the past, you wouldn’t be able to correctly rank fighters. For example, if we just went by what Chuck Liddell has done in 2007, we wouldn’t even know that he’s a top 10 light heavyweight since he’s lost both of his fights.

The above logic also goes for Diego Sanchez. We had Diego ranked 4th at welterweight back in March, a testament to the success he had at that point. Then he went on to lose two fights in a row, thus why he dropped down in the rankings.

When I say top fighter, I mean a fighter that would be ranked anywhere from 1-15 in the world. Mike Pyle is that type of fighter in my opinion.

elmersglue - We’ve had Sakurai ranked at the top of the lightweight division since March. He was rumored to be fighting in August and it didn’t happen and there’s been nothing in terms of news on him since then. The UFC supposedly signed this guy to compete at welterweight yet there’s been no official announcement. Once he officially moves to 170 lbs, we will move him there, don’t worry.

We have Sherk and Diaz behind Gomi. What’s your point? Gomi had long been considered the top lightweight in the world until he lost twice in the span of a year. Sherk has only been in the lightweight division since last year. He’s the UFC lightweight champ? What does that matter? Just because you are champion of a division in the UFC doesn’t mean that you are the best fighter in that weight class.

As for Diaz, when you submit Gomi with a gogoplata, you deserve to be in the top 10. He looked like crap against Aina and Noons so he deservedly dropped down in the rankings. However Joachim Hansen lost this month. If he didn’t he would have stayed and Diaz would have been out. Since he lost, Diaz slid down but not completely out.

I see you still have Fedor at the top.  Interesting.  It seems like the last time he fought anyone even worth mentioning was Cro Cop in August of 2005; the rest were either out of their own weight class or has-beens.  Now he has joined an organization where his opponents will be hand-picked for him so his legacy can remain intact.  Hong Man Choi has a 1-0 MMA record.  What would this win do for Fedor?

We seriously considered replacing Fedor at the top of the heavyweight division but putting an idle Randy Couture ahead of him wouldn’t really make much sense right now. Besides, Choi isn’t signed as Fedor’s opponent, he’s just an option as far as we know. I think it would only be fair to wait and see who Fedor’s official opponent is and what the result will be.