Hughes Says St. Pierre “Felt Greasy”

“why are you waiting to say something about it until now?”

That’s easy…  Look at the backlash Penn is getting from some fans.  People are calling him a poor sport, and the evidence is there right in front of everyone’s eyes.  Now Matt’s camp didn’t catch any illegal acts during the fight, so how would you prove it?  There is no way he wouldn’t be dogged if he made those claims after the fight.

Also, maybe he felt greasy, but he wasn’t sure if he was just a really sweaty guy (more than normal) or what.  Now that these allegations came about, maybe he is re-examining the greasiness of GSP during their fights, and realizing, he must have been greasing then too.

it’s just a rediculous subject, it made no difference in the fight(s) so why even mention it, so what if there is a bit of vaseline residue on the gloves that transfers when he gets a rub down, not like he was slathered in grease lol, secondly the grease was noticed between the 1’s and second rounds, and he was wiped down between the rest of them, this just sounds like a bunch of whiners trying to find excuses. Boo Hoo…. they all know they would get their asses whooped again by GSP if he fought them “greaseless” so why even mention it, now if they found a some sort of object in his gloves or something like that, then i can see why theres all this fuss, but a bit of grease on his shoulders?? c’mon…this conversation is played, lets all just move on and discuss something that really matters in mma lol

LOL… I just saw Sylvia in that picture above wearing his belt with his jeans.  I almost forgot about that “era”.  What a goof.

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if your on top u only need a split second… a slight slip from the guys guard to posture up and hammer down a fight changing blow… esp if the guys head is on the matt.

makes no difference, sweat is just as slippery or even more so,and again it was residue, not globs of it, you’d need a hell of lot more than that for it to make a difference in a fight i’ve been in both positions and it makes zero difference, you get mounted, you get mounted, if anything blame your lack of skills and work/train harder for your next fight, don’t bitch about insignificant issues like this, this whole thing is absurd, BJ lost and lost badly,  actually he quit!..get over it, move on

uh your comparing putting vasoline on the back to sweat?? really? LOL.  if you go there, then u HAVE TO KNOW that sweat is wayyy more slippry with lube applied, period. 

what is wrong in wanting gsp’s corner to pay for doing something ILLEGAL and making sure it DOES NOT happen again?

i’m really trying to figure out why holding people to rules is hating and bitching?

i guess gravy n fries really must clog more than arteries.

mikemick - You’re right. Hughes’ camp didn’t catch any illegal acts by St. Pierre’s corner, but neither did Penn and his camp. They were informed after the fight that the commission had wiped down St. Pierre in between rounds because they suspected Phil Nurse has rubbed Vaseline on his back. At the time, they didn’t catch anything, or else they would have informed Keith Kizer, right?

That’s what bothers me about this whole thing. The video doesn’t lie. Whether or not Phil Nurse and Greg Jackson meant to rub Vaseline on GSP’s back or not, the fact of the matter is that they did it. But B.J. and company didn’t notice it at the time, and if the commission was never pushed by Chuck Liddell to go in there and check on the situation, Matt Hughes wouldn’t be coming out of the woodwork right now.

I’m not saying he or Sherk or anyone else that has commented on the situation is lying, but their timing seems a little suspect to me.

“why are you waiting to say something about it until now?”

I agree with the second comment, this quote is some bullshit and I’m tired of EVERYONE saying it. None of you saying this have obviously competed in any serious sport. People cheat all the time, we all know that. Not everybody just starts complaining when they lose to someone who may have cheated because of how it makes them look. It’s almost embarrassing.
Would YOU just start squealing “CHEATER!” if you lost to someone with some grease? It’s just how it is, you take it like a man, condemn them, and try to overcome them anyways next time. It’s not fair, but life isn’t fair. Any competitor KNOWS that.
Suddenly, Sherk, Penn, and Hughes are all crybabies? They’re fucking CHAMPIONS. Christ. I love GSP, I don’t hold this against him, but he’s got some douchebag fucking fans that can’t see two feet past his crotch.

I have to retract something I said earlier. NBC Sports is reporting that B.J. Penn informed the NSAC before the fight about the possibility of St. Pierre greasing.

Anon - For the record, I like GSP, but he’s not one of my favorite fighters and I’m not going out of my way to defend him here. What he and his camp did was wrong and I hope they are punished for it.

Also, I played basketball at various levels for over ten years. I know that people cheat all the time. I was poked in the eyes, kneed in the thigh, elbowed in various places, etc many times. I cheated myself at times. I understand the whole crybaby deal that comes with the territory as well.

I think you’re contradicting yourself here. You’re asking athletes to not do something dishonorable and cry about others cheating while giving Hughes, Penn and Sherk a free pass. It doesn’t make any sense.

I’m not saying either Sherk or Hughes are whining exactly, but to bring up the whole greasing thing years after the fights against St. Pierre took place is a little much. It’s one thing if they were asked about it, but just to come out and give their experience against him without provocation is only hurting them in my opinion.

the old saying “if your not cheating your not trying”... that comes from old douche bag men who never made it and are trying to catch a free ride off their son’s or daughter.  hockey dad, little leauge dad.. that is their motto. 

it also seems wall street really likes that motto and our government….

so i guess this makes it okay and if you call somebody on it your a crybaby, wow morals are really fucked up in this world.

Good ol’ Matt Hughes showing his true colors once more.  He says he isnt saying it changed the outcome of fights, but then he says GSP didnt grease when Hughes won, but might have when GSP won.  Let it never be said that Matt Hughes ever missed a chance to show a lack of class.

The reason guys like him are so excited to say that St. Pierre was greasing is because GSP blew all of these people out.  It adds a little doubt, which bolsters their egos.

I wonder how greasy Matt Hughes thought GSP’s shin was when it caved in his face?

This is Just like all the American sports scene.
They have to be the best. If someone from another country beats them. well they must be cheats. Grow up you guy’s.

Americans rarely care who else is American in sports.  This isn’t the Olympics (which isn’t what it once was here either).  It’s not like Canada, but nice try.

There is no way it was done intentionally, it was just accidental, and there wasn’t enough on him to make a difference in any event, BJ would have still lost and he admitted just that saying “the better fighter won” to say the grease made a difference is rediculous, he was wiped down between each round anyway when they thought he got some on his back between the 1st and 2nd rounds so it again made no difference,

Kiser of the Commission said this:
(During the second round break)
“So I got into the Octagon as soon as I could and told Mr. Jackson to take his hand off Mr. St. Pierre’s back and then we made sure we wiped it down. It wasn’t like it was an excessive amount of Vaseline but it did appear that there was still some Vaseline on him.”
The fighter was wiped down and the commission ordered the same thing after the third round “just to play it safe.” So if there was any grease on GSP it was a little bit and it was on him for the second round ONLY, BJ lost ALL the rounds, the 1st was 100% witout grease and he lost that… the second round may have had a bit of c=grease on him and he still lost that round, the 3rd and 4th were grease free and he lost both of those rounds completely, he tapped out between rounds and that was the end of the fight,how the grease could make a difference is absurd… the commission will find no intentional wrong doing, and there will be warnings handed out, with the new rules this won’t happen again anyways so why keep bitching about something that made no difference in the fight, Even Bas Rutten believes it’s a rediculous accusation, and he’s a guy who would know a few things about fighting and greasing…
you all gotta get over it and move on lol

and american’s do care who’s american in a fight, thats why they chant USA,USA,USA in some fights, so don’t pretend all american’s are above that. nice try…

Yeah, and we’ve also chanted that when there are two Americans or two non-Americans.  We mean well, I swear

LOL!! nice one!
And i’m 100% positive you do lol

That no doubt explains why most American fans cheered Nog over Mir, GSP over Penn, Fedor over Sylvia, so on and so forth, right?

Also, the average American UFC ticket holder, sorry to say, is a complete dumbshit. As David pointed out, they often chant USA for someone who’s not American at all. I can’t remember who it was, but just recently a Canadian fighter was hailed with “USA! USA! USA!”... :(
Let’s not even get into how they’ve got the attention span of two-year olds and boo just because the fighters go to the ground. Guess it would just make too much sense to go to a boxing or kickboxing event if that’s all you wanted to see, just because it’s not UFC. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

wow, i’m suprised none of you declared that Georges St.Pierre had weapons of mass destructions in his cloves or something. Stop complaining get better at the sport and maybe someday you’ll be able to beat my friend Georges. He’s good, he’s disiplined, over and above he’s Canadian.
and B.J. What does not kill you makes you stronger, stop running away from your bad experiences by blamming others for your wrongs, step up take responsability and learn from them. If you Think GSP is going to be sitting on his bunns, taking it in stride. I’m pretty sure he was in the gym the next day he whopped your butt.

Georges “Rush” St.Pierre is a real warrior, i’m starting to wonder about you.

Matt hughes is an arrogant whiny bitch and will continue to lose in the ufc.. 

Yeah, theres no way hughes will ever make a big comeback in the ufc. Hes to one dimentional, good wrestler and submission fighter but shit striker. Put him against st pierre,alves,koscheck,sanchez,fitch and probley hazlett and he will come out 2nd best. Arrogant prick aswell.

LMAO nice Krity!!