What happens if Ken Shamrock actually beats Tito Ortiz tonight? The Light-Heavyweight division of the UFC goes into disarray, that’s what…
Just think about it for a minute. Ortiz and Chuck Liddell are slated to fight for the UFC Light-Heavyweight title in December - Tito has already shown the public the contract itself. If Shamrock beats Ortiz, there’s no reason for that fight to even take place. If it still went as scheduled, there would be a huge uproar, the likes of which we have never seen before.
I don’t think that Shamrock would automatically get a title shot, but then again who would take on Chuck in December. I would hate to see Liddell have to wait like Georges St. Pierre has had to.
A very possible scenario could be this - Rashad Evans will take on Renato Sobral at some point later this year. Forrest Griffin and Shamrock would quickly follow suit. That would leave Tito matching up with either Stephan Bonnar (if he is permitted to fight which I highly doubt) or Keith Jardine.
Actually any combination of that could become a reality…
What about Chuck? Well this would become the perfect opportunity to re-ignite talks about possible taking on one of Pride’s top light-heavys, Wanderlei Silva or someone else…
Matt Hill of MMA Weekly has written a very good piece about Ken’s possible chances as well…
Tuesday, October 10, will be the trilogy that finally ends one of the longest running feuds in MMA today. If Ortiz wins, he proves that he is without a doubt the superior fighter. If Shamrock wins, he throws a wrench in the entire UFC light-heavyweight division. It seems like almost everyone is counting Shamrock out…except Shamrock.
“I’m supposed to get beat, so if I get beat I get beat; but what happens if I don’t get beat? They’re going to have to eat some crow,” said Shamrock.
Tomorrow night’s UFC Fight Night will mean different things to different fighters. Will tomorrow night be Ken Shamrock’s last fight, win or lose? Is Shamrock just an easy obstacle for Ortiz to hurdle over right before his December rematch with Chuck Liddell for the UFC Light-Heavyweight title.
Kendall Grove, Matt Hamill, and Ed Herman are all TUF3 guys who will be returning to the octagon against MMA veterans. Rising UFC welterweight contenders Thiago Alves and John Alessio will face off on the undercard as well.
Another fight that intrigues me - Nathan Marquardt fighting for the first since UFC 58 against Crafton Wallace. Why Marquardt hasn’t fought since March is a mystery to me. After his victory over Joe Doerksen, Marquardt was considered one of the top contenders to Rich Franklin’s middleweight belt. Since then, a handful of middleweights have gained ground and Marquardt isn’t considered in the same breath as Mike Swick, David Loiseau, and Chris Leben anymore.
Some media coverage for the readers…
UFC: Tito Ortiz - Shamrock First, Liddell Later
Miami Herald: Shamrock’s fighting mad; Raw hatred fuels Ortiz, Shamrock
Doghouse Boxing: Tito Ortiz speaks; disses Ken Shamrock
Florida Sun-Sentinel - The ultimate rematch
Tampa Tribune: UFC’s Ortiz Still Man Of People
Houston Chronicle: Ortiz, Shamrock ready for final chapter
Sherdog: Ken Shamrock Training Pictures
UFC: John Alessio - Just Getting Started
Boston Herald: Alessio, Alves to meet on October 10th
MMA Weekly - Ed Herman Ready for UFC Fight Night
Here is the full card for Ortiz vs. Shamrock 3 - The Final Chapter.
Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock
Kendall Grove vs. Chris Price
Ed Herman vs. Jason MacDonald
Seth Petruzelli vs. Matt Hamill
Thales Leites vs. Nate Marquardt
Tony DeSouza vs. Joe Riggs *
Rory Singer vs. Josh Haynes
Thiago Alves vs. John Alessio
Marcus Davis vs. Forrest Petz
* The UFC still has Joe Riggs listed against DeSouza but there have been rumors floating around stating that Riggs pulled out of the fight due to family issues.
Pride held yet another press conference yesterday discussing details about their upcoming US debut in October…
We already learned about the announcements of Josh Barnett-Pawel Nastula and Mark Hunt-Eric Esch yesterday. Dream Stage CEO Nobuyuki Sakakibara stated that some more fights will be named later this week and the rest of the card will be revealed at the end of the month.
It’s interesting to note that because the event is taking place in Nevada, the rules will be similar to those that the UFC uses with a couple of changes. The fight will obviously take place in a ring rather than the UFC’s famed octagon. As it pertains to striking, there will be no elbows to the head permitted while on the ground. Kicking or kneeing of a downed opponent will be illegal as well despite that it is usually allowed in Pride events.
No shoes or Gi’s are allowed to be worn. The fights will be three five-minutes rounds instead of Pride’s usual one ten minute round followed by two five-minute rounds. The event will be four hours long and will be broadcast on PPV and the web.
Even more interesting then those announcements is the fact that Sakakibara was willing to talk about Silva-Liddell and the current status of the possible matchup. ..
“Speaking on behalf of Pride, we are ready anytime. Also, Wanderlei is ready. We just need the doctor’s confirmation regarding his injury from last week. We are still waiting for the UFC’s response. Mirko even said that if Wanderlei is not ready to fight in November, he would fight in his place. In some interviews, Mr. Dana White stated that this fight won’t happen. However, speaking from Pride’s side, we are ready.”
Hey, that’s not what Dana said!
I really don’t know which side to believe. I want to side with Dana and the UFC seeing how Pride has screwed over other promotions before by pulling crap like this whole saga. I wonder what he will have to say about this.
Even though Dana already said that Silva shouldn’t get a shot at Chuck Liddell because he was destroyed by Mirko Cro Cop, there is still room for things to happen. Dana’s right - Silva shouldn’t get Chuck after that massacre.
But if what Dana said at UFC 61 is true - They were supposed to have Wanderlei for three fights - Why don’t they have Wanderlei face someone else, like Babalu or Forrest for example. This way Tito can get his title shot and providing Chuck and Wanderlei both win, they can meet after that.
I’m such a genius…
It seems that Tito Ortiz seems to dislike Renato Sobral these days. Judging by his comments, I think it’s a good observation. Ortiz has been pretty willing to rip into Babalu for his recent performance against Chuck Liddell at UFC 62…
“Renato Babalu is not really as good as they try to make him to be. They kind of painted the picture more of what they think. I think that was a typical fight for Liddell. That fight will go the same way each and every time. The first time went 2 minutes and 30 seconds and this one went 1 minute. Renato Babalu is not really that great a fighter. He’s a great ‘B’ fighter and an average ‘A’ fighter. He’s not at the level of (Randy) Couture or Liddell or myself.”
I wouldn’t go that far Tito. Anyone who takes Fedor the distance and beats Trevor Prangley, Shogun, and Jeremy Horn all in the same night has to be considered among the best fighters out there without question. The main reason why Babalu lost in my opinion is that he failed to execute the proper game plan that could beat Chuck. Babalu must have been dreaming if he thought that he could win the stand-up battle.
It’s the classic mistake that Couture, Horn, and now Babalu have made during their fights with him. All of the fighters had fought him before, all of them had a superior ground game to him, yet all of them decided that they wanted to beat Chuck at his own game and they paid the consequences by getting dropped.
Anyway, enough of my rambling…
After hearing about Tito’s remarks, Babalu has issued a statement through his manager:
Through his manager, Sobral sent the following retort to MMAWeekly.com, “I earned my title shot after my results in the Octagon. I won my way up to the title shot against Liddell and Tito has his fight guaranteed on a contract. I won my way up with 10 wins in a row with the last three being at the UFC by submission. Tito had two victories at his two recent UFC fights with the judges helping him… very controversial results, not convincing!! Even though I believe it’s impossible, I really hope Tito beats Liddell because it will be easier to smash his face and get the title from him instead of Liddell.”
Babalu does make some good points, however I don’t think he will be getting a shot at Tito or Chuck for quite a while…
Chuck Liddell was recently on MMA Weekly Radio discussing his plans for the near future...
Liddell stated that his next opponent will most likely be Tito Ortiz for the Light-Heavyweight title in December provided that Ortiz gets by Ken Shamrock on October 10th as expected.
Although a major push was made to get the fight with Wanderlei Silva worked out, things fell apart. Chuck noted that the announcement made at UFC 60 was a ploy by Pride to use the venue to promote themselves. He also said that the deal fell through because of Pride and had nothing to do with Wanderlei.
As always, Liddell expressed interest in rematching Quinton Jackson and avenging his loss to him a few years ago. Chuck said that Rampage signed with the WFA to avoid him. When interestingly asked if he would ever move up a weight class and fight in the heavyweight division, Liddell didn’t rule out the possibility and said that he was open to fighting anyone.
He was questioned about retirement and when it would take place - Liddell said that he would be taking things one day at a time and that he doesn’t have plans to stop fighting any time soon.
In a recent interview with O.C. Register Ortiz gave his thoughts on a third fight with UFC Hall of Famer Ken Shamrock.
“ I have to get past Shamrock one more time,” Ortiz said. “That fight will be on Spike TV and it’s pretty much for the fans. I could have waited out until December and got my world title. All of those fans that were booing (at UFC 61) because they weren’t satisfied, they are going to get it again. It’s too bad it’s at the expense of Ken Shamrock’s health.”
“ This is to shut up his fans and make my fans happy because they thought it ended too quick last time,” Ortiz said. “It’s one of those things. I’m all about the fans and that’s why it’s free on Spike TV.”
If that wasn’t enough Ortiz went on criticize Chuck Liddell who previously knocked him out in two rounds. Also he decided to call Renato Sobral a great ‘B’ level fighter. Keep in mind that Babalu has continuously fought the worlds best fighters and he always comes to fight. He has gone up against the likes of Fedor Emelianenko, Kevin Randleman, Mauricio Rua, Jeremy Horn, and more. Hopefully the UFC can put together a Babalu-Ortiz match-up in the future.
“ He looked just like a normal Chuck Liddell,” Ortiz said. “Renato Babalu is not really as good as they try to make him to be. They kind of painted the picture more of what they think. I think that was a typical fight for Liddell. That fight will go the same way each and every time. The first time went 2 minutes and 30 seconds and this one went 1 minute. Renato Babalu is not really that great a fighter. He’s a great ‘B’ fighter and an average ‘A’ fighter. He’s not at the level of (Randy) Couture or Liddell or myself.”
Dana White’s “big” announcement on UFC Live and Inside was that rivals Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock will battle in the octagon for one last time October 10th on Spike TV. Other fights rumored to be on the card are Seth Petruzelli vs. Matt Hamill and Kuniyoshi Hironaka vs. TBA. Hironaka was originally expected to fight B.J. Penn but that will no longer happen as Penn will be fighting Matt Hughes for the UFC welterweight title.
Wanderlei Silva has been announced as part of the Pride’s USA debut on October 21st - all signs point towards his bout against Chuck Liddell being all but cancelled. UFC President Dana White has been rumored to be making announcement regarding this and the third fight between Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock at UFC 62 this Saturday.
While the rumors about Tito Ortiz and UFC President Dana White sparring against each other have been circling for some time now, it seems like the two are getting closer to actually making it happen. Both Ortiz and White stated that the sparring match would indeed happen in the near future. Unforunately for all of us, the spectacle will occur behind closed doors.